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The extreme cost associated with buying another expac (for $30-50 or whatever the launch price will be) and THEN a character transfer is so high that it would have been so prohibitive in the first place. And, like you pointed out, there's really nothing stopping them from limiting the number of free 90s an account can access. And isn't there a limit to character transfers, anyway? I thought you could only have two accounts linked that way?

I don't think that justifies making it a service.

Most of this is aimed at Digg, but it applies to all I guess...

I still stand on the side that it is ok. All of us who are buying WoD are getting the one insta-90. Anyone who starts up (fresh) is getting the insta-90. No one is being left out here.

Should they fix old content even more? Yes. I don't know many who would argue that they should not. Will they? Probably not, because it is easier to just add this service (instant 90). Thy could add a quest line that marches you from where ever you wish to start right to 90 with added EXP and ok/decent gear rewards along the way. Maybe someday? Maybe a suggestion should be posted at on the OF, I'd gladly come and second it.

BUT BUT BUT... if you want to buy the option again and not level, go for it. It won't hurt you if your guild member/friend/Joe/Jan/Hobo spends his/her money.
It is like mounts and pets you can get on the blizz store. I own a few. Few RL friends I play this game with, do not, because they can not afford to drop the money. It is ok. I still play with them, they still play with me (giggity).

The argument that they get to skip over old content, and thus get to work on end gear content faster VS. some one who can not afford to buy another instant-90. This fits in with the mounts. Who cares? How does this effect YOUR game play? Does it make you not able to log in? Not able to go and do your quest line/dailies?
Is the worry aimed at Randoms? Because when people hit 15 and can start doing randoms, I'm very vocal (or typey?) to bad tanks. Not to call them out, but to offer suggestions so they learn. If the worry is New players to WoW using Insta-90 and filling up randoms, just take a breath and offer suggestions.

They get to work on newer gear? Oh no..
I've only been back for a month (I think I'm 3 days shy actually of a full 30 days), my DK is iLv525. That seems pretty decent imo. Only a few weekends (I don't LFR during the week, do not have the time) of work and I sit again in top 10 and top 5 DPS meters. I'm just a few more upgrades a way until I'm stuck with either doing Flex or joining a raiding guild.
I consider my self a casual player.
So is the worry of a new person out gearing you, making you freak out?


Is this still true today? I assume you are playing, I don't know. Are you actually doing current-LFR/Flex/10/25/Hard raids? Or still leveling characters? Or quit again?

I would think someone who is starting up WoW fresh, has some kind of MMO exp. Probably with a free one, and they decided to try out one of the big boys. That is how it happened with me over 10 years ago.
This isn't a new game, so I'm not worried about an influx of new players who do not know their class. They will get 10? (what is the cap in WoD? 95? or we going to 100?) to learn what to do before they step into Heroic Dungeons/Randoms. There are way to many sites packed full of information that even today's people don't use to better themselves off. Learning WoW isn't hard. Starting at level 1 or 90, you still have to learn. Spending $25-30 to skip over 1-90 questing may be an option, but not a must. If you can afford it, Blizz will gladly take your cash.

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Now Rhodekylle would have to correct me here, but are there not already similar services like this for the Chinese version of the game? Do not most players actually go to Internet Cafes to play, where they are paying for internet time?
From what I know, WoW in China is free. They also have the option to buy Lesser Coins from the store. Are there other options like this?
These options are to allow players to enjoy end-game (raiding) with out wasting money on internet time to do dailies. I could see them having the option to allow people to skip a head, would probably increase the player pool if others could join their friends/coworkers/spouse in a game and not have to play catch up and could instead enjoy the game.

Criminy said some stuff I totally agree with. I do wish there was a scale-down or sync option in the game. I would totally help people if I could sync down to their level. They do this in FFXI and FFXIV. You gear scales down, and you lose abilities. I would like to see this happen in WoW, maybe not remove abilities but make them very weak (so rotations, and bars would not have to be reset if you synce down). Allow gear to scale down, but make you stronger then the average person in gear, it would be scaled down to a bit better than BoA gear. Sync would not allow PvP (because lets be fair, that would not be).

From what I understand this option for other 90s is still in debate. Again, everyone gets a free on with WoD so no one is being left out on this option.

I don't like it. But the moment they announced the 90-boost per account it was rather likely. Else people would open a new account, get their free level 90 character and transfer him to their old account. This is just the cleaner, easier way.

I just wish they did not any level boost at all.

But then I'm nearly done leveling pre-90 so you could call me biased.

Heroics are always do-able by using class utilities and smart pulls. However, the player base was used to a tank grabbing aggro and then just dpsing down the mobs. A majority of players didn't know how to use their CC's properly, or at all.

It didn't help that CC was simply NOT prevelant enough in all classes for there to be a system that would work with the random system. Back in BC/Vanilla, you'd make sure you grab one of the classes with solid CC, and a class with solid trash dps, etc. There was a construction aspect that let the CC system work.

Realistically, the only way CC in randoms could work is if all classes had real CC (at least close to the level of Poly), or if you queued as something like CC-DPS as a Mage, Shaman, etc.

The former is obviously the more attractive option for PVEers, but it's a PVP balance issue.

I never really cared for the argument that PvP needs to be perfectly balanced. That would be impossible in my opinion. Personally I feel that skill will trump any balance issues. Hence why great PvPers truly excel and good players only get so far before complain of balance issues. Bad players will be be bad regardless of how balance issues are addressed.

Then again, I was mediocre, on a good day, in PvP and it had nothing to do with balance issues.

And as I recall, CC was needed in a few places during heroic BC runs. Some pulls were unforgiving. There was actually a great post many many moons ago on the hunter forms on zam about LoS pulls and how to do them. I recall having my mind blown reading them but it went a long way at the time. I just feel players don't care to learn anymore.... I can vent for days on this subject.

The problem with Cataclysm heroics was a combination of two things:

1. Healer mana efficiency was built around triage healing being a thing.
2. Incoming damage in heroics were not built around triage healing being a thing.

Probably the worst blunder in WoW development history. Had they committed to the triage plan 100%, I would have hated it, but I would have accepted it. Instead they went 50% and then had cold feet, but instead of reverting the changes, they went with a half-and-half *********** of epic proportions that caused healers and tanks to quit their roles overnight.

Before someone rolls in with the obligatory "I liked it" comment: I bet you didn't play a ******* Druid.

You said it not me. Resto druids were like the bestest healers ever.

I know that. Just interjecting my poor ability at humor.

Druid healing would have been a lot of fun with triage (same with disc).

But a HoT-based class just doesn't work when you're trying to go from empty to full, nonstop.

Nope, that would have been too simple because faction grinds are fun! Instead, make fish cakes to feed your baby cloud serpent, which will be BoA ... but every alt you have will have to do this rep grind to be able to use it. Oh, by the way, we're going to give you cloud serpent riding, but you won't be able to use it until you also buy faster mount skill and riding for Pandaria.

Boost to 90 or not, I feel sorry for new players. Each expansion has its rep grind and there is often a pet or mount at stake. As the number of expansions grows, the community in general doesn't want to see new players easily granted things that were weeks of grinding for them, but new players are left to grind old content for weeks on end. I find it annoying -- Argent Tournament, I'm looking right at you -- but a player starting in WoD will have even more to catch up on.



Or worse. Much worse.

WoG will not impact BC content whatsoever, other than whatever effects the stat squish has upon them.

WoG will be taking place in a whole separate continent game-wise, and Outland will continue to exist. They haven't released exact details as to how we choose which version of Draenor we go to when we use the Dark Portal, IMO they'll probably put a bronze dragon NPC that teleports you to Outland and have him stand right next to the DP while the DP itself leads to WoD Draenor (they could even use phases; if you're Lv90, the portal turns red and the aforementioned dragon would be standing there ready to teleport you to old Outland. If you're <90, the portal is green and leads to Outland).

Edited, Jan 21st 2014 11:47am by Lyrailis

You don't need rep nowadays (except for Shado-Pan Assault to Friendly which only takes 1 full run of Last Stand), and getting into Endgame MoP is quite easy. Also, you can get rep like candy now from the Warscouts and/or doing the Work Orders quests, so getting Exalted is easy-peasy, even with Klaxxi with no Commendations (that used to take for-stinking-ever).

And they did say that they made a mistake with the sheer number of dailies and the grinds involved with them, so I doubt they'd do that again in WoD.

But at least the option was *there*, unlike Cataclysm, lol.



To each their own, I didn't mind the Tourney. Though if you wanted to get _everything_ then, yes it was a God-Awful grind that took 3+ months once you got your Crusader title. But just getting up to Crusader wasn't that bad. It's just that they decided to stick a million mounts and pets on those vendors and each required an item you could only realistically get 10 of per day (more if you had a guild willing to do the dungeon). The problem were the mounts that they wanted 100-150 of those seals for. The 40 ones weren't too bad.

Edited, Jan 21st 2014 1:19pm by Lyrailis