New Changes to stats and Battle SystemFollow

Basically yeah. What they're saying is that you'll have 100% accuracy from the front of a target and more than that from the flanks and rear. This accounts for things like evasion buffs on a boss or blind effects on a player. They're also adding something called "direct hits" which I guess do more damage but that isn't entirely clear, and adjusting rates of critical hits based on accuracy. So it'll still be a good idea to not be standing in front of a boss unless you're a tank, you just won't have to shuffle your gear every fight to reach an accuracy cap.



We currently have 5 cross-class skills settable. Of which 3 tend to be useful and 2 are to fill in the slots, depending on job. What remains to be seen is exactly which skills end up in this category. There may be some interesting decisions to make depending on what you need for a particular fight. We'll have to see.



The stated goal is to have about the same number of buttons at 70 as we do now at 60. A lot of abilities are being removed or consolidated to make this happen.



The short answer is we don't know. The longer answer is probably not because you're still going to have a lot of buttons and stuff to watch and a rotation and priority system to master. The new UI elements for each job will help a lot in reducing visual clutter and having to watch 32 cooldowns at once to be good at your job. But again, we really just don't know. We don't have enough information to say definitively what rotations are going to look like at 70.

Yeah, but some could either be consolidated, or something....

For example, Rage of Halone vs Royal Authority.

They both occupy the same slot on your Rotation (Post-Savage Blade), but yet you still need both, because RA does more damage than RoH. However, RoH is needed because it has increased enmity and strength down.

What I wish they would have done would be to simply merge RoH and RA together, or give RA the same Strength Down and Increased Enmity so that you can simply take RoH off the hotbar once you learn RA.

I.... don't need.... two... abilities that do almost exactly the same thing on an already-cluttered hotbar.

That, and I wish they'd move Goring Blade from Riot Blade to Savage Blade. If I am using Riot Blade, it is to restore MP after using Clemency. If I'm doing that, I don't need ANOTHER 1.5 seconds before I can Riot Blade again if I use Goring Blade. If I need MP now, I'm going to skip Goring Blade, and go back to Fast Blade so I can Riot Blade again sooner.

If I want Goring Blade, I don't want to have to Riot Blade at full MP because that's a waste of damage and enmity gain.

Agreed on the skill consolidation thing. Why isn't Royal Authority just a trait that modifies Rage of Halone? Why are Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust and separate abilities instead of just being built into Full/Chaos Thrust? Etc... It's crazy that all things stay in the rotation forever, while more just gets added on top of it. Hopefully this new system will alleviate some of that.

Well, there's Sheltron but I keep forgetting that it exists and that it has an Additional Effect: MP Restore on it, nor do I know exactly how much MP it actually restores. It's got a relatively short cooldown, so a couple Riot Blades and a Sheltron... who knows. Better than nothing, at least.

The trick is going to be placing it on your UI properly. But there's a good reason high level WoW players make such a big deal about WeakAuras. The ability to consolidate a large amount of information into a compact space is HUGE.

It's the one addon I keep missing not having in FFXIV.

As I was listening strictly to what Yoshida said vs what she translated (due to different terminology and such the versions use) You'll still have to be a "rotation master" because this game is based around rotations. Due to media embargo can't say much, but needless to say, a DPS will have to master their "new" rotation, it's just a lot more "in your face" with the job gauges now. Basically what he said was "It's easier to pick up but harder to master." So people who are able to clear content with 0 issues now will master the new systems in no time, compared to people who still struggle doing a basic level 50 rotation at 60.

Since the only real issue with casual vs core play, is the fact many gamers chose not to improve themselves, which is also part of the game's fault by not challenging players as they're progressing, instead only shoving it at the very end so it was very much "optional" if you were actually good at this game or not, and as much as people have issues with reading that, just really look at how you can still clear content without much effort put into it outside of certain Ex Primals (Zurvan, Nidhogg) and 3.5 Savage Content (A11 and 12s requires good coordination.) I know people generally say 'fun/challenge is subjective' but the most infamous change is how they had to nerf an early story quest because people were complaining it's too hard when all they had to do was use the antidote you were given in a previous story quest..as they tell you..to counteract the poison they're known to use. So instead of making the game harder, they're trying to level the playing field in a sense, but the real details can't be talked about yet (but you should start seeing it pop up this week.)

The battle system will basically play out like 2.x > 3.x jump in that it's familiar enough but there's some things to learn since we all hear about people who quit BRD because of casting, same with MCH, yet they're two of the strongest DPS's when played correctly, but a 'standard brd' will do less damage than a WHM. So they wanted to try to get rid of stuff like that..HOWEVER, throw a person who knows how to play and a person who doesn't at the same monster/boss/training dummy and see night & day differences, the new changes will still be the same as they didn't revamp the entire battle system. So if you're an amazing DRG (for example) people will want you. If you're not...no one will want you if "statics" are the only way for you to play. The only way this will change is by changing the core battle system.

While I have only had Ravana come up a few times, I really haven't had any issues with it. The fight is actually pretty easy. He has a lot of annoying moves, but he telegraphs most of them with plenty of time to dodge. As long as at least half of your party knows the fight it isn't that bad at all.

I don't agree with the 'infamy' of the antidote reference. One, it was barely a footnote - two, the fight was poorly scripted. IF you used antidote too early, you got poisoned again, and could flat out die from it before reinforcements arrived. Considering that moment is the one and only time you're forced to use a non-key item in a fight, the whole thing was pointless, even as a tutorial.

On the battle system changes - I'm on wait and see mode. There are a lot of skills that weren't on display or hotbars, and while we were assured that they may not have been removed, I'd like confirmation of the full skill lists before weighing in on things. They might have stripped things too far down for my comfort - especially after seeing that a lot of key standbys in former subskill system failed to get equivalents.

Its not an issue of not wanting to get good but mote like lacking the ability to do so. I mean not everyone can memorize a complex strung of ability combinations or have the timing or reflexes to pull em off at the right time or speed. Its just like playing a gighting game I could watch all the combo videos there are, read and memorize every combo guide or even have ON SCREEN combos displayed as you play. But that doesnt mean I have the skill, timing or reflexes to pull them off.

Thats why I play RPGs as they usualky dont require all that, in togs the only skills you need is a brain and strategy. Fights in single player rpg and older mmos came down to knowing everythng your enemy was going to do and having a plan suited to your skill, abilties and playstyle to deal with it, and having the right stats and or level, though with a GOOD plan even stats and level werent needed. You didnt need to know how to press buttons fast or in the right order to maximize your danage, you just needed the right skills, abilities, stats, food and buffs... then xiv "and wow" came along and ruined that by making an mmo that requires more fighting game like playing skills and less rpg skills

What? Reaction time and sequence to maximize your efficiency has been a thing since Pac-Man. The only games where reaction time isn't much of a factor are games where you're taking turns, and even then pressing buttons in the right order is pretty important.

Did you ... did you confuse video games for Chutes and Ladders?

It also wouldn't be much of a game.

So ffxi wasnt much of a game?

FFXI doesn't work the way you described.



Not nearly enough quotation marks there.