Nostalgia overload (FFXI event)Follow

I liked VII, my favorite is VI followed by VII,IV,XIII, then XII. VII retained most of what made the 2D ones great but brought us into the 3d realm and beautiful cgi cutscenes which FF is known for today. I do not like the voice actor for Barret, they made him into more of a Wesley Snipes Blade(the websites point this out and it is spot on imo). I always pictured Barret as more of a Samuel Jackson type personality, maybe a tad less dirty.


True, these games are good because one character can be everything. But if they could literally be everything one at once that wouldn't be good. The armoury system was too open ended in the beginning with the way it was structured. Now it has flowed to the opposite extreme, you can equip some sub abilities from certain different classes but they really don't change the playstyle drastically only color the flow. I really feel the same way on the bolded part of your comment.

Well, as I envision it, you literally couldn't learn the best of every discipline and be best at it all 100% of the time. That's where gear investment, resource costs, potential cooldowns, and all that do their own thing to narrow your focus for a specific encounter or your general play style. Abilities themselves could also have a degree of customization as your perfect them, allowing things like modifying costs, increasing damage, widening AoE range, adding secondary effects, prolonging durations, cutting cooldowns, and so on.

Realistically, I'd acknowledge such system would be a bit grind heavy, but that's more where varied and variable content alongside stronger emphasis on crafting can help distract and/or keep things fresher longer. In terms of how combat would flow, I'd liken it to Tales of Vesperia more than what we'd seen in XI or XIV. More action-y than the former, but maybe not as twitchy as the latter, not to mention being more controller friendly.

What really impressed me is how the battle areas feel almost identical to the cutscene areas, probably because they're all being rendered by the Luminous engine.

SE resisted remaking VII for a long time because, according to legend, they were idiots and lost all the pre-gold assets from game development. All the backgrounds, all the raw scripts and dialog forks, all the uncompressed renders - gone, to make room for FFXIII. I suspect that they only decided to remake it when there was no point in salvaging any of those assets any more anyway, aside from the dialogue forks which were the easiest to recover.

You know what I want to see? In the scene when Cloud goes in drag, I want him to dress like Lightning.

Too much content for a single release? I don't think so. If they couldn't pack it all into a multiple disc release like the original because it's too big, it would take longer to play through it than it has for them to actually commit to remaking it.

Poor VII fans. Just when you though the trolling was over.. POW! Right in the kisser. I think even Cloud himself did a

I mean, VII was "big"..but if you look at other communities, every time VII is brought up you're not allowed to tell the reality of the situation lol. SE is clearly trying to money grab because they know people will buy it. The biggest BluRay disk available commercially is 128GB.

Unreal Engine 4 can cause some bloat, that is true..but so big that it can't be a single release? Hey whatever makes money. It's like all the promises with XIV that never pans out.

The only way it can have "so much content" is if every FFVII episode encompases the entire story - FFVII - FFVII Crisis Core - FFVII Advent Children - FFVII Dirge of Cerberus - FFVII Before Crisis optional DLC.

Otherwise...they just solidified their gold mine since FFXI. Nomura and Kitase said it will be "full releases each" I mean, the standard full release game only has 4-5 hours of actual gameplay and story these days not counting multiplayer and replayability...so.....



Edited, Dec 10th 2015 3:51am by Theonehio

Honestly, fanbois exist everywhere. It would hardly be surprising if the same people saying this is the best solution now did a complete 180 if SE decided to make it one game after all. In the end they will probably make a boat load of cash regardless of what they decide to do, the question is just if they decide to go for people who might not be that big fans of the game or just hope the fanbois are willing to make up for the loss of players by paying more.

Actually, most BLURays are around 50GB standard now, only GTAV thus far has come close to maxing out a BD. Not even MGSV capped out the capacity and that's with cut content.

SE is notorious for bloat though, so I really wouldn't be surprised if VII is actually 32 GB with 75 GB bloat. As much as I'd want to believe them, this IS STILL SE after all - they use lofty words and love to hype things up. Only FFXV could live up to the word "big" but still could end up falling flat. XV is also larger than VII has ever been and it's a single disk release unless things changed.

Yep, Versus XIII was slated to be the "Open world/traditional FF game with airship travel like you remember!" and even had a few tech demo/trailers out eventually (Like 1 or 2). But it got scrapped and reworked as FFXV.

As I said before, all a VII remake will do is show just how bad the game actually was. The main driving force behind VII's popularity is it being many fans first FF game and RPG. It was also the first 3D game, so it wasn't developed optimally and has a lot of unnecessary assets used and lots unused but still on the disk.

FFXIII had a **** ton of bloat and pre-rendered cinematics for Japanese and English (easily made up most of the disk data) and XIII-2 was a bit better but still a lot of bloat. FFXII has a lot of bloat as well and FFIX was by far SE's only clean FF game with no excess data, no unused assets outside of debug/test elements that's usually always there, no "hidden" data..literally their cleanest FF game ever.

So even if they say each episode will be like a full game..full games these days vary from 2-7 hours excluding extras and multiplayer components. Either way, SE found how to make the most money on this remake, so I can't fault them for bleeding people dry when they see the chance to. VII was a big game..but it was also mostly pre-rendered with geometry for the actual walking paths. So honestly, I see no reason to make a singular release unless they just NOW started development instead of all those years ago when Wada said it could take up to 10 years and only if a FF surpasses VII (which XI did and even XIII/XIII-2 combined did.)

Yep - Nothing will beat VII in terms of "this was my game!" which is why Wada said it, to make an excuse not to do the remake. But XI made SE the most money and XIII/XIII-2 still sold just as well if not better than VII did (since XIII was crazily hyped and anticipated.)

I don't think I'm alone in the boat of old school players who aren't looking forward to this. I'd go so far as to say that most old school RPG fans are wishing that games these days would return to the roots.

At the core, these are role playing games. Games meant to present you with choices to make and apply those choices in a way that makes you feel like your decision had an impact. That's also why I was hoping that at least the ATB portion of the battle system would remain in VII. It was a huge part of what made the game enjoyable to players who liked having to make choices. It was also one of the few things that gave the game any sort of replay value since the random encounters weren't actually random.

If you're old school then you'll remember that turn based combat pretty much defined the genre back then.

"Hey we made this wildly popular game that people want updated to next gen. Let's make arbitrary changes and see how it goes!" Yeah, that doesn't sound like a great idea to me but I guess we'll see. I'm not saying we won't be pleasantly surprised by something that offers the same freedom the original did, but even if that's the case I'd rather have seen it executed in a new game.

We have to remember that the reason this is being done is for the fans. I don't scour the internet for every piece of feedback on VII, but I'm sure I've never seen anyone complain about turn-based battles. Ain't broke, don't fix. If anything I've heard the most complaints about the game's story and I'm inclined to agree. It stands out as the weakest part of the game and I'd probably have higher regard for VII if the story was better.



Edited, Dec 11th 2015 3:42am by FilthMcNasty

Eh, guess it's a difference of opinion then. I've never picked up any of the HD remakes, I'll just go replay the original since that's what tickled my fancy in the first place. I do enjoy the time based combat, but like I say, if you're just going to re-do the graphics and keep everything else the same, I don't see the point of releasing this at all.

I've played through VII, VI and Chrono Trigger at least 5 times each (probably more) and they never lose their magic for me. So I guess it's whatever you enjoy.

One of my favorite games as of late is Divinity Original Sin which has a turn based battle system. The strategic battles are great and I can take as much time as I want figuring out what to do. Fast/action is absolutely not always a good thing for me, it just depends on what I feel like playing atm. It is too bad I see less and less of anything else though.