Anyone know what il void ark gear will be?Follow

I hear il200... if that true I wont hope its not better than eso gear (as that would make getting it pointless) but instead just be filler piece for the ESO gear you didnt want or didnt plan to upgrade... also correct me if Im wrong but didnt the CT only drop armor? not accessories (including belt) and weapon? I so I hope void ark follows the same formula bcaus if so Id only need two piece of gear from it to replace my il190 orias stuff.. which Id be ok with... then trying to run it for weeks or months to get a full set 9or close to it if you add acessories and weapons.. I have enough weekly stuff to grind as it is lol)

Ok well in VA work that way and assuming none is better than eso id only need hands and head

They said Voidark is Crystal Tower. It will drop ilvl 200-205 (205 is the ballpark number if they tune the difficulty higher than they're planning.) It will have the upgrade materials Savage Alexander drop as, most likely, a weekly quest or one of the bosses will drop it and it has its own lockout timer. Voidark may drop weapons, but like World of Darkness, they'll probably change their mind on it.

Binding Coil's lore was well explained and given that Bahamut is a primal like any other. In XI we fought him and he's technically gigantic as well, but in XIV, you're fighting a literal "avatar" of Bahamut inside of his heart. Much like Phoenix you were fighting a new born primal. So while in Binding Coil 1 you seen bits of Bahamut in each turn, his actual body was being revived but he was smaller.

The problem with multi-boss hardcore raid instances in this game is the time limit. Because all instances are under strict time limits, you can't really reasonably create a hardcore instance that contains many bosses.

I mean seriously... imagine doing all 4 bosses in Alex Savage in 90 minutes? Nope. Unless you're already farming all 4, there's no chance of you doing that. And then when the time limit runs out and you're unceremoniously booted out of the instance, you have to what? Do all the bosses again to get back to the one you're working on?

As long as that time limit is a thing, you will never see a hard multi-boss raid.

Have you ever done progression raiding?

I would suggest that if you're seriously taking down new progression content in 30 minutes that you are a far superior raider than has ever walked the Earth. Alternatively you have no idea what progression raiding is. It's one of those... not sure which.

A new fight can easily take a group several hours or even days to get right the first time. I remember when my WoW raiding guild was working on Heroic Spine of Deathwing back in Cataclysm. We'd steamroll the rest of the instance in about an hour or so because we'd been farming that for some time, and then the next 3 hours of raiding (and then the next 2 days of our raid week) would be Spine for 4 hours a night. It took us almost 200 pulls to finally win that fight. If there'd been a time limit on us being in the instance, forget it. If every 90 minutes we had to go back and kill an hour's worth of bosses just to get to our progression fight? No way. We'd still be doing it today.

Sidenote, I do think that, with some finageling, SE could pull off Multi-Core Boss raiding. In fact, I feel like Exploration Voyages may be very similar to that vein - so to do it within a Raid Setting may not be too far off the mark of what's already being implemented in the near future.

A lot of our dungeons are 90 minutes anyways. While it would be difficult to master to begin with, I could see the top end endgame players eventually pushing multiple pathways in a single run, which would be neat to see. But of course there would also be other balancing factors that may prevent this from being a reality that I'm not thinking of.

Still, I would very much be in support of branching Dungeons and Raids.

They absolutely could. But that time limit on instances has to go. What is that even for anyway? I've never seen an MMO put a strict time limit on how long you're allowed to be in an instance. The only thing I can come up with is that their instance servers are seriously feeble machines that just can't tolerate too many instances existing at once. In which case there's a different problem here.



Similar. But that sounds like it's more of an open-world kind of thing. No instancing or lockouts involved. If we're talking about raids here, then the Airship Party Fun Time Land doesn't really enter into it. As for branching dungeons and raids... maybe. They'd have to re-work the way they handle loot tables so that there's a reason not to simply take the easiest path through an instance, but it's a thing they could potentially do.



Apart from the world first race, everybody doing progression is entering a raid they potentially have foreknowledge of. That's still progression. And hey, if you're saying that you've been knocking over Alex Savage bosses within an hour of encountering them, that's great. I don't believe you, but that's great. Most people can't do that.

I think it's a direct result of the Pandemonium Warden fiasco, in which people couldn't beat the content because it was glitched and kept trying anyway to the detriment of their own health.

Even Dynamis hard a soft time limit of one hour and a hard time limit of 3.5 hours once you unlocked the extensions. (Later changed to 2 hours once entry became daily.) Limbus? 30 minutes to an hour, depending on which zone. The CT cycle of raids was capped at 2 hours, because that was how long they expected it to take you even if you screwed things up a few times along the way.

So no, the time limits on raid fights are not new and in fact have a lot of precedent in FFXI.

I was going to say that everything in XI had a time limit that didn't take place in the open field. That included BCNM, mission fights inside battlefields, Dynamis, limbus, assaults etc etc. It's pretty standard for FFXI and was made even worse by the Pandemonium warden situation as Catwho mentioned.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2015 1:45pm by Laxedrane

Well considering I listed the date Ill be ready (gear wise) to even ATTEMPT savage, and the fact that that date isnt hear yet, me saying Ive been knocking over alex savage bosses within an hour of encountering them, would be a lie based on the fact that what I said previous would contradict that, I also said when ive been in progression parties, IF we havent beaten said boss within the first hour most ppl start dropping out and giving up, thus I might have to have attempted said fight 10 times.. which at an hour each would equal 10 hours total before a win. What I said was the 90 min time limit is useless because groups ive been in have NEVER used the whole 90mins, that doesnt mean we've beaten it before time ran out it simply just means ppl would quit long before it even got to that point.

Well no one ever called FFXI an EQ clone because A) EQ wasnt as big or recognizable as WoW.. SO while technically by todays logic ppl would call FFXI an EQ clone but because of what I just said, that would never (or didnt) happen and b) FFXI did LOTS of things EQ didnt, for example.. FFXI was the first MMO that didnt look like **** (i swear EQ coulda been a PS1 game based on how ugly it is... sure youd say... no it couldnt be on PS1 but definitely PS2.. but then Id just name PS2 games thats graphically play EQ away... like zone of the enders 2, metal gear solid 2, final fantasy 10... nothn ugly about those games and they look lightyears ahead of EQ)

Also FFXI actually had a good plot as opposed to EQs "this game s a game for ppl who like RPGs and like grinding just for grinding sake... after you take 100+ hours just getting to max level with no incentive or motivation other than "I enjoy grinding", when you finally hit max level now you take a million more years doing MOE grinding for better gear with no incentive other than "So ill be strong enough to bring for this even BETTER gear", sure FFXI took "a million years" (a full year for me to be exact and that was playin 8 hours a day 7 days a week) to hit max level, compared to a game like WoW and FFXIV, but I had incentive to do that... I wanted to see what was gonna happen next in the story.... so if I had to grinding 30 hours to hit level 50 so I could do the next story mission then bring it on. If FFXI removed its story then it woulda been just like ESO to me where I played til level 10 then quit.

Now look at FFXIV instead of SE saying "our name and title (FF) alone will get our game sales, thus we dont have to try to be like those others guys to get 20 million sales, all we need to do is make a game that doesnt suck" (and FFXIV failure had NOTHING to do with the fact that it wasnt fast paces and WoW like which is the only type of MMO that gets sales these days, 1.0 just simply wasnt good, I can promise you if SE made FFXI with this gen graphics and rerelaed it on PC and PS4, (even the pre abyssea version) it would STILL sale and review WWWAYY better than FFXIV 1.0)

To prove my name and title point... Metal Gear solid V plays NOTHING like the previous games, in fact the ONLY thing goo about it is its gameplay, the story is terrible (unlike the rest), the characters are terrible etc etc, but just because of the title on that box itll sale like hotcakes despite it being a mere shell of its former self.. I mean sure the gameplay is great but thats not what I play MGs for.. I can get good/flashy gameplay out of Devil May Cry, gimmie my deep, convoluting stories, with 45 minute cutscenes, that actually end up predicting the future (look at everything said at the end of MGS2, the date it came out, and look at the world now and tell me that game wasnt right) back please.

You were..and actually some other MMOs. This wouldn't fly by the XIV communities standards though lol.

"Why would you create content where I can't take my 30 minuets I play a day and complete it?"

So on so forth.