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#1 Jul 22 2015 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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Am I reading this right? Is XIV unplayable on Windows 10 until mid August at the soonest?
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#2 Jul 22 2015 at 9:48 PM Rating: Default
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well lets hope its not a mandatory upgrade then (and lets hope the windows 10 launch isnt as bad as Macs is)
#3 Jul 22 2015 at 10:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think it's that it's unplayable on Win10, but more like they haven't finished testing to make sure it won't explode on Win10. So it'd be more of a "run at your own risk" kind of thing.

My recommendation is always to hold off on New Windows until the first service pack anyway.

Windows 10 is not a mandatory upgrade.
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#4 Jul 22 2015 at 10:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not unplayable, more like unsupported. Run it at your own risk until they complete their verification. I believe some people have been running this game on the Win10 tech releases.
#5 Jul 23 2015 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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At the launch of Heavensward several people running Windows 10 commented on some of the things they were seeing. Most sounded more like driver comparability related problems.
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#6 Jul 23 2015 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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Meh, Windows 10 free "upgrade" is good for a year, there's no reason to rush into it.
#7 Jul 23 2015 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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Meh, Windows 10 free "upgrade" is good for a year, there's no reason to rush into it.


You can sign up for the free upgrade during the first year, which is effective for the rest of that computer's life.

You can sign up for the upgrade and then just don't install it (it'll download and sit dormant on your HDD until you choose to install it).

Merely sign up for it anytime, and Windows will tell you when it is ready; it won't twist your arm and force you to install it ASAP.
#8 Jul 23 2015 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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wtf is Windows 10. I'm still using Vista.
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#9 Jul 23 2015 at 3:09 PM Rating: Default
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XIV played perfectly fine for me in Win10 betas..aside the usual XIV related issues by design of the client (doesn't handle audio or system time changes at all.)

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#10 Jul 23 2015 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
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wtf is Windows 10. I'm still using Vista.


Consider upgrading to Windows 7. It was the best OS they've ever made. Vista was like a patchwork quilt under the hood and had a lot of quirks. Windows 7 was more like a seamlessly woven silk blanket.

They had to go and wreck it with Windows 8 and 8.1, Windows had has done so poorly that for marketing reasons, they're skipping 9 and jumping straight to 10 to get as far away from 8.1 as they can.

Following the "tick is bad, tock is good" track record they have, Windows 10 should probably be okay.

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No. The reason for skipping Windows 9 is legacy software.

Back in caveman times, programmers would determine which OS the user was running by checking the OS name string. And since Windows 95 and 98 were basically the same from a compatibility standpoint, they checked to see if the string began with "windows 9" which would easily cover 95 and 98.

Right up until you introduce an OS that's actually named Windows 9. Then you cause all the problems in the entire world and J Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us.
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#12 Jul 23 2015 at 8:17 PM Rating: Excellent
I love my Windows 7!

I'll be upgrading to 10 though probably later in August or maybe even September. I'm in no rush, and Windows 7 rocks.
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#13 Jul 29 2015 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
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As I expected, like the preview builds, XIV runs perfectly fine on 10.
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#14 Jul 31 2015 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
I just upgraded and there's no issues. If you had Windows 7 N, you have to get windows media player again to get the launcher to work, but that's it. My performance has increased in XIV (Crossfire 7950s), and my NPC/Player name glitch with DX11 is just about gone. Some flickering here and there, but significantly better. I've essentially turned it into windows 7 with the customization and also get the insanely fast cold boot with SSD (since I skipped out on windows 8 all together).

The upgrade went surprisingly well too, can do a disk cleanup afterwards if you want to get rid of the old Windows version (or keep it for a month if you wish to revert). Ran some CCleaner to get rid of a jumble of stuff, and almost like a fresh installation. Witcher 3 also ran noticeably better, so overall it's been pretty positive. My only complaint thus far is most options (power wise) are for damn tablets. I can't for the life of me get my monitor to go in standby. It's all things along the lines of, while plugged power screen down at X time. That's great..my computer's always plugged and it thinks it's a tablet.
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#16 Jul 31 2015 at 8:07 PM Rating: Good
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Well by the time they let me download Windows 10 it could be mid-August. So it really will be unplayable on Windows 10 until then. Just a different spin on the original post.

Edited, Jul 31st 2015 10:15pm by kainsilv
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#17 Aug 01 2015 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
kainsilv wrote:
Well by the time they let me download Windows 10 it could be mid-August. So it really will be unplayable on Windows 10 until then. Just a different spin on the original post.

Edited, Jul 31st 2015 10:15pm by kainsilv


You can just download the Windows media creation tool from Microsoft. That's all I did, save it to your hard drive, open and you can either upgrade the machine your on or make a usb stick/cd to install it elsewhere.
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#18 Aug 03 2015 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I love my Windows 7!
I'll be upgrading to 10 though probably later in August or maybe even September. I'm in no rush, and Windows 7 rocks.


Exactly my feeling, although for me Windows 10 I won't install till at least later next Year. I'm not one of these that #MustUpgradeNow!!.

As for my work, that certainly won't be upgraded till a lot closer to the Windows 7 EOL. It works and no current issues.
#19 Aug 03 2015 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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kainsilv wrote:
Well by the time they let me download Windows 10 it could be mid-August. So it really will be unplayable on Windows 10 until then. Just a different spin on the original post.

Edited, Jul 31st 2015 10:15pm by kainsilv


You can just download the Windows media creation tool from Microsoft. That's all I did, save it to your hard drive, open and you can either upgrade the machine your on or make a usb stick/cd to install it elsewhere.


^^^^ This ^^^^ I had to go this route. I kept getting update errors and all the stated "fixes" weren't working.
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#20 Aug 06 2015 at 8:46 AM Rating: Default
i am growing so tired with people trash talking about windows 8.1.. 8 was bad yes, people now think that 8.1 is bad aswell because 8 was bad.. i use 8.1 and everything runs far smoother then it did with windows 7.. now if you say windows 8.1 is bad you're basicly saying Windows 7 is even worse... really try 8.1 out yourself or don't talk crap
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i am growing so tired with people trash talking about windows 8.1.. 8 was bad yes, people now think that 8.1 is bad aswell because 8 was bad.. i use 8.1 and everything runs far smoother then it did with windows 7.. now if you say windows 8.1 is bad you're basicly saying Windows 7 is even worse... really try 8.1 out yourself or don't talk crap


Two things I haven't enjoyed about 8/8.1 are tiles (Metro) interface and the removal of the start button. The tiles gui is easy to change and boot directly to desktop. But I like to go to the start button and "see" all the programs available. Win 10 hasn't gone back to a Win 7 style, but it's better than Win 8 IMHO.

Edited, Aug 6th 2015 8:33am by AngusX
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#22 Aug 06 2015 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Draknir wrote:
i am growing so tired with people trash talking about windows 8.1.. 8 was bad yes, people now think that 8.1 is bad aswell because 8 was bad.. i use 8.1 and everything runs far smoother then it did with windows 7.. now if you say windows 8.1 is bad you're basicly saying Windows 7 is even worse... really try 8.1 out yourself or don't talk crap


My primary objection with Windows 8/8.1, as someone who fixes computers for a living, was Microsoft's decision to make Windows 8 hard to fix. I guess they decided during design that the OS would simply never break, so when it inevitably DOES break, fixing it is a royal pain. Something goes wrong with Windows 7, I can probably fix it. Something goes wrong with Windows 8, it's a coin flip.

From a user perspective, I hate the metro interface. It's another example of Microsoft changing things for the sake of making changes and not because some problem needed to be solved. I don't know of anyone who sat down in front of Windows 7 and said "yeah, having everything in this menu is cool and all, but what I really need is for it all to be smeared across 4 screen-lengths and be harder to use in general... this is just TOO convenient."
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#23 Aug 06 2015 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
I have 10 on both my desktop and tablet, neither of them are on tablet mode and both have a start button with 0 tiles. It's almost identical to 7, the start menu imo is even easier, but if you don't like it you can download classic shell. It performs better and again, that 5 second cold boot is gold.

Its only downfall is the data collection thing, which with 5 mins of work can be disabled.
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#24 Aug 06 2015 at 7:32 PM Rating: Excellent
My biggest beef with 8/8.1 is that WS_FTP LE 6.0 finally stopped working with it and I had to join the 21st century. FEH.
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Draknir wrote:
i am growing so tired with people trash talking about windows 8.1.. 8 was bad yes, people now think that 8.1 is bad aswell because 8 was bad.. i use 8.1 and everything runs far smoother then it did with windows 7.. now if you say windows 8.1 is bad you're basicly saying Windows 7 is even worse... really try 8.1 out yourself or don't talk crap


I kind of agree. I love Windows 7 but 8.1 overall was an improvement. The only issue I've had with 8.1 was the layout because it was CLEARLY designed for tablets/touch interfaces.

Otherwise, 10 is just a superior version of 7 even currently. Like with all new OS though..have to give companies time to fully get their support to it.
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#26 Aug 11 2015 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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i am growing so tired with people trash talking about windows 8.1.. 8 was bad yes, people now think that 8.1 is bad aswell because 8 was bad.. i use 8.1 and everything runs far smoother then it did with windows 7.. now if you say windows 8.1 is bad you're basicly saying Windows 7 is even worse... really try 8.1 out yourself or don't talk crap


Okay..... some one has an issue with 8.1

We do not use it here currently at work, I will not push to go to 8.1 from 7 when not long after that we would have to seriously consider 10.

Comparing 7 which is essentially a stable OS, works with pretty much most software including some very outdated packages vs 8.1 which is W8 version 2. The IT community especially in education generally feel 8.1 is not worth going to especially now with the release of 10. The EOL of 7 is till 2020 that gives us 5 years to prepare for 10. Many people like my self went from NT > 2000 > XP > 7. For stability and compatibility. It's also a known thing that business's/educational sectors tend to skip an OS for those two exact reasons. M$ try something new (like they did with 8) it didn't work, here comes version 2 (8.1) but still not quite good enough. Windows 10 by the looks of it returns to a much more 7 with a mix of 8 system, instead of a 8 mixed with a 7 system.

8 was a poor attempt of a Tablet OS by M$, regardless of how people feel it was generally considered to be a failure. Which was why they released 8.1 with the Start menu but it was still 8. Complaining about those who had issues with 8.1 or 8 would be like complaining about those who don't like Vista (for obvious reasons). You may love 8.1 but you can't deny that as an OS it is not considered to be a total success. We have found a few packages of our software (Dept Educational) does not work on 8.1. if you work in IT you would understand, if you work in Education then you would completely understand the situation we are in. I have tried 8.1 my self, but I still can't ignore the fact it's still W8 with a Start menu.

I could go on but your post is worst than the insults I have seen about 8.1

Also just because Windows 7 didn't run smoothly with you, doesn't mean a thing. I found Windows 7 runs smoother than any OS here but if the previous machines running Windows XP had not been rebuilt in any way or had a ton of Startup items - you may find that simply a refresh would run your machine better. We image, something we do to every IT Suite for a refresh. It can turn a 8 Year old PC from taking 12 minutes to turn on and log on, down to 4 minutes and usable by the users.

Edited, Aug 11th 2015 6:08am by Lonix
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