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This is one of the major reasons why my FC is on hold for our major plotlines. This trailer alone teases some Lore Bombs that could literally backfire entire plot arcs.

While... I kinda agree with Hio on the whole Bahamut being optional thing, I'm going to hold and see how they explain it within Summoner quest line, if at all. From a shallow, giddy standpoint, I actually like the idea that Summoners get Bahamut's attack.

The small showcases of the Limit Breaks were pretty impressive from what I saw. I like them. Just a few more days till we can actually see these in detail.

It's unlikely to be explained. I mean unless they're planning to make "change your lb3 animation" a quest reward (which now that I say that, would be kinda cool), it'll probably just be "here's 3.0, your lb3 is now X."

Channeling Bahamut's power without having finished Coil is a LITTLE icky. Honestly though, if you're going to go that route with things, you'd want to reward all the jobs for completing T13 and not just SMN. I think in this case it's probably ok to just hand wave it away as not being super important. It's a cool visual, nothing more.

See, I only have issue with Summoner (and clearing T13 in itself is the reward, along with the OP gear and weapons which we know will last till at minimum 3.1) mostly because Bahamut is a story tied with the end of 1.x and all through 2.x you hear about dalamud, yes..but Bahamut is never a thing in the main storyline, like at all. You don't even so much as encounter him (nor Phoenix) despite their importance.

SMN in particular has to be in the presence of a defeated primal to absorb their aether or in a location where x primal's aether is gathered to control a fraction of it (must defeat the "unfinished form") however Bahamut's aether only exists in the binding coil..essentially Dalamud locations. There's only 1 spot in the overworld that would have a tiny trace of it in Coerthas (either side), otherwise..that's why I only really hate when they use lore as a reason to do something or not to do something..but as of now, this glaring plot hole is just staring you in the face lol.

You also have to remember the biggest changes to SMN rely on Bahamut Aether as a separate build up to your Aetherflow.

A point of view I agree with. But logic has no place in a discussion of personal preference. My friend adapted the use of the healer LB as a Bard as his own and is disappointed that it was removed. I do hope the new animation pleases him though - cause I happen to like it.

Did I hear...? "Warrior of Darkness." HYYYPPPEEE!

Be sweet if the warrior of darkness was your character but an anti-your character lol. Idk how the color scheme would work but would be interesting as devs to toy with. Kinda like scotty pilgrim and the dark version of himself in the movie. Loved that movie..

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 12:34am by SaitoMishima

Could be. It's more likely the SMN job quests will just take care of it.

You don't have to have beaten Garuda in the story to obtain the Garuda-egi pet. You fight her (or a piece of her) during the job quest and tap into her power that way. This isn't an egi presumably because Bahamut is simply too powerful to control that way. Bahamut ends up possessing you to a limited degree instead, though you still retain control. I expect the reason for this to be explained during the job quest that gets you Dreadwyrm Trance.

NB: I'm aware that the quest to obtain the Garuda-egi is a higher level than the story-mode Garuda fight. But the fight is not a pre-requisite for the quest.

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 6:17am by Callinon

That's a possibility, which is what I'm hoping the quest really explain because that's quite the change up from what even the level 50 story dialogue suggests, since warrior of light or not..the style they're going with the Dreadwyrm stance is definitely a huge change up.



Hmm...well, after you beat T13 it's kind of 50/50 given those events. Heck even after you enter T12/beat T12 it makes it apparent that you're "finishing the job" completely. The biggest problem: Coil is optional. So while yes, Bahamut razing the land wasn't an optional event, the main story shys away from anything and everything to do with him directly, so it would be tossing optional elements into the storyline and leaving people confused that didn't do Coil.

So it really could go either way, just hoping they explain it well because yeah, Summoners are definitely Warlocks in game design, but lore wise possessions seem to be more of a thing, it's just being possessed by something optional in the grand scheme of things is a weird decision. So while you don't have to fight full powered Ifrit, Titan and Garuda, they exist in the main storyline. Their points of aether exists in the overworld..Bahamut..? Not so much. Especially when you realize Bahamut doesn't even actually exist anymore (as he's very much dead lol) and the "Egi" you fight in T13 is basically the last of his presence.

Basically.

Did they always used to show the CGI Warrior of Light like this in their videos? It seems since Heavensward has been announced he has been making a presence. I know it's supposed to be our characters or whatever, but it seems kind of out of place.

You can't hate Melisandre, she's our only hope at the Wall.

"For the watch"

..yeah that worked out great.