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#77 Sep 14 2016 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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I don't like you, for introducing me to that word.
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#78 Sep 14 2016 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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I, on the other hand, plan to start using it as casually as possible.

The McDonald's kyriarchy refused to accept my expired coupon for a free small fry.
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#79 Sep 14 2016 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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"Kyriarchy" being the newest one for me.

I think we battled some of those in an AD&D campaign once.


I see you took a trip to the Underdark.
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#80 Sep 15 2016 at 3:10 AM Rating: Good
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In any case, the only scientifically proven anti-rape method is to limit social connections with men as much as possible, as the vast majority of rapes are done by men known to the victim.
So this whole living in the parents basement and not talking to other people is a good thing then?


Hell yeah. Nothing bad can happen to you indoors, that's why I haven't left my house in ten years.
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#81 Sep 15 2016 at 7:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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"Mansplaining" is one of those handy words that lets me know I can mentally check out for a while or skip clicking on that article.


Well get to work on absorbing these because I don't care how ******** they are..I'm working them into everyday conversation in the hope that they'll simmer in the undercurrent of feminist linguistic innovation and will, in time, reach you in some other place and context and then you'll think of me and you'll know...

The worst types of workplace sexists—and how to fight them

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#82 Sep 15 2016 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
"Mansplaining" is one of those handy words that lets me know I can mentally check out for a while or skip clicking on that article.


Well get to work on absorbing these because I don't care how ******** they are..I'm working them into everyday conversation in the hope that they'll simmer in the undercurrent of feminist linguistic innovation ...


That is sooooo fetch!
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#83 Sep 15 2016 at 8:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Well get to work on absorbing these...

Wha?
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#84 Sep 15 2016 at 10:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
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Well get to work on absorbing these...

Wha?


Who?

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#85 Sep 16 2016 at 5:37 AM Rating: Good
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Next, mind taking Jophiel back to the old folks home? That would be great, yeah.
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#86 Sep 16 2016 at 5:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Next, mind taking Jophiel back to the old folks home? That would be great, yeah.


What are you up to these days anyway? I can't keep track of any of you people but your proximity makes me nervous. Smiley: dubious

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#87 Sep 16 2016 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
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Next, mind taking Jophiel back to the old folks home? That would be great, yeah.


What are you up to these days anyway? I can't keep track of any of you people but your proximity makes me nervous. Smiley: dubious

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#88 Sep 16 2016 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, it took me a while to realize that the "these" I was supposed to absorb were the Social Justice Snigglets in the link. I'm going to pass on that Smiley: laugh
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#89 Sep 16 2016 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I absorbed them into my Ignore List.
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#90 Sep 16 2016 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, it took me a while to realize that the "these" I was supposed to absorb were the Social Justice Snigglets in the link. I'm going to pass on that Smiley: laugh


Oh come on! Stenographucker!? No?

Smiley: glare

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#91 Sep 16 2016 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, I absorbed them into my Ignore List.


This why I send out a call to the AllaFems. When I was growing up, we called men like this, Male Chauvinist Pigs. My sisters, mother and I specially loved to use it on our male family members.
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#92 Sep 16 2016 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Good luck with that.
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This why I send out a call to the AllaFems. When I was growing up, we called men like this, Male Chauvinist Pigs. My sisters, mother and I specially loved to use it on our male family members.

Have you tried calling them Stenographuckers?

Better yet, send it to them in an email and wait to see how long it takes before someone asks if you had a stroke while typing your message.
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#94 Sep 16 2016 at 12:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Have you tried calling them Stenographuckers?
And just after you proclaimed you weren't going to. Way to be corrupted by the kyriarchy.
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#95 Sep 16 2016 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Is it still manterrupter if i do it to everyone or am I just an interrupting *******?
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#96 Sep 16 2016 at 8:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Is it still manterrupter if i do it to everyone or am I just an interrupting *******?


MOOOO!

Oh wait, sorry, I live with a four year old.

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#97 Sep 16 2016 at 10:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
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Is it still manterrupter if i do it to everyone or am I just an interrupting *******?


MOOOO!

Oh wait, sorry, I live with a four year old.

Nexa


I hope you made her walk the plank.

(for mutiny, moo-tiny, get it? ha ha...buehler?)
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#98 Sep 19 2016 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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Anyway, what have you & Smash been up to?
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#99 Sep 19 2016 at 12:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Anyway, what have you & Smash been up to?


Raising spoiled children and complaining about how entitled they are, mostly.

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So when gbaji's sister is roofied and raped behind a bar...


Given that an ambulance was on scene for the woman within 30-40 minutes of leaving the club/bar/whatever, and they proceeded to do a full rape kit on her at the hospital, and there's been no mention of any sort of roofie involved, your analogy isn't accurate. I do love how you guys insist on adding extra conditions to this sort of thing. If she had actually been roofied, then it would be a different case. Her own actions would have had zero bearing on the outcome. She could just as easily been roofied and assaulted while studying at the library as partying at a club.

But in this case, his guilt aside, she drank all that alcohol on her own. That's the behavior I'm talking about.
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#101 Sep 19 2016 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm merely pointing out the unfortunate social reality that it's far easier for each potential victim to take steps to avoid becoming a victim then to attempt to prevent any potential assailant from choosing to assault them.


Really, I should have to dress in baggy clothes that hide my figure and not drink in public, to avoid rape?


Holy hell is that an excluded middle. Um... How about not getting drunk, making out with some guy you just met on the dance floor, and then leaving with him, all while in a state in which you are incapable of making good judgements.

The idea of relying on a potential assailant to *not* take advantage of such a situation seems like a really really really dumb approach. Again, the counter point I made was that given her own actions, if that particular guy hadn't been there that night and assaulted her, there's a high probability that it would have been some other guy who assaulted her instead.

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What we need is, men to learn to not think they have a right to *** with women. I shouldn't have to worry that by telling someone, I'm not interested in them, they may get angry and assault me.


By that logic, the best way to prevent muggings is to just teach people to stop mugging other people. Heck. We could solve all crime with this novel approach! Why didn't we think of this before? Oh wait. It's because it doesn't work. You're relying on trying to prevent a given crime by teaching the potential criminals not to commit the crime. Note, this does not mean I'm excusing the criminal behavior at all. I am, however, saying that in a world where people do commit all sorts of different crimes, it's a terrifically stupid idea to put yourself in a position where you're an easy victim for criminals.

It's equally dumb to leave your windows rolled down and an iPhone in plain view. Or walk around a bad part of town with hundred dollar bills hanging out of your pockets. None of those behaviors excuse the inevitable criminal behavior which will result. But doing so massively increases your odds of being victimized.

My issue with this line of thinking (and oddly only in this case of this one particular crime) is that it has the side effect of convincing women that since they should be safe to get as drunk as they want at a dance club because men should know better than the assault them, that they're more likely to actually engage in exactly the behavior which increases their odds of being assaulted. It's perverse. It's the kind of thing you'd tell people if you wanted them to become victims. Why do that? Certainly, go after men who assault women. But why not also teach women some common sense things to do in the cases where they run into a man who isn't going to follow the rules? I just don't get the knee jerk negative reaction to this.
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