Jophiel wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Minorities are voting Clinton anyway. In the general, they'd still vote D, even with Sanders. Sanders wins women and competes for the Bro vote. Moderates who don't trust Clinton might be inclined to go with Bernie. Angry old white guys were voting R anyway.
Most likely, either Democrat would win the general. I'd actually be less inclined to guess it's Sanders because Sanders hasn't actually had a real negative campaign waged against him yet. But my point is that Sanders' supporters aren't actually making realistic arguments about why the party machine should overturn the will of the voters and support Sanders over Clinton.
Sure, but I think the argument that other Sanders supporters are making isn't really what they are saying, rather it's just a sense of disappointment that there aren't enough Liberals in the Liberal party to get the kind of America that they want. Some of them turn to delusion and/or think "How can this math be right, based on the media/information I am receiving? Shouldn't somebody fix this?" and you get various solutions of varying sanity levels, ranging from rolling over and accepting a slow creeping change that Hillary offers, to getting better propaganda, conspiracy theories (in this case probably true but mostly not illegal) to bullets of silver (super delegate fiat revolt) or lead (direct action) or even other radical solutions like a decent into a centralized fascist technocracy.
Long story short, sorry Charlie, try kicking that football next time.